Monthly Archives: February 2009

CK’s Eve Blog Banter #5 – Two Accounts Edition

Welcome to the fifth installment of the EVE Blog Banter, the monthly EVE Online blogging extravaganza created by CrazyKinux. The EVE Blog Banter involves an enthusiastic group of gaming bloggers, a common topic within the realm of EVE Online, and a week to post articles pertaining to the said topic. The resulting articles can either be short or quite extensive, either funny or dead serious, but are always a great fun to read! Any questions about the EVE Blog Banter should be directed here. Check out other EVE Blog BanterThis month’s topic comes to us from Mynxee of Life in Low Sec. She asks “Alts and Metagaming: Is playing two accounts who are logged in at the same
time and work together (hauler/miner, explorer/combat associate, trade alts in trade hubs) a form of metagaming that is “ruining the game”?

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When I first started playing I quickly realized how difficult it would be to keep my pvp character in a ship considering the sheer number of ship losses one will amass both learning and practicing PvP. Within my first couple of months I created my second account, a mining alt. Over the months it’s been both a god send and a bane having two accounts.

For one, it doubles the cost of play. Having and paying for two accounts truly turns Eve into a hobby more than just a casual game. Second, the cost to actually train that character up can be quite expensive. To simply get that character in a Hulk with T2 fits will run over 250+mil with the cost of the ship, learning books for both the exhumer and learning skills, and implants to train faster.

You have to ask yourself if there are certain professions in this game that just plain flat out require two accounts to work and be fun. Take capital pilots for instance. Do you really want to trust someone with creating a cyno field for you to jump or have to wait for them to show up and hope they do it right? Most Cap pilots I know have a cyno alt who’s only job is to creaty cyno fields they way the Cap pilot wants. Then of course there are pirates and pvpers. Many whom I know have alts that trade or mine, just to keep the isk flowing in for those inevitable losses. Many second accounts are the result of players who are 3-8 months into the game who realize they didn’t optimize their current characters attributes when creating it and now are suffering with training time and maybe spending to much time not focusing on their profession. This happens to many new players who just don’t know what everything means when they are in that character creation system for the first time. They don’t want to give up their current character due to the simple fact that they have SOME SP at least so they create a second account and skill up a new character the right way.

There are a number of reasons to have an alt, but there are certainly many people who don’t. Many casual players just find it overkill and would much rather spend their time and isk on bettering their main character.

Is it meta-gaming? I’m not sure. There are those who beleive that it’s unfair. But in reality, like I stated above, some professions gain a lot from having another account. CCP seems to have no stance on the subject, though having no rules regarding it might be a stance in and of itself.




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If you’ve been following this blog you know the last couple of weeks has been crazy for me. Moved my corp into 0.0 and setup a large POS. Just a few weeks ago I spent hours a day happily mining away in empire making 15-25 mil per day. Now I spend my days mining ice, not because I want to, but because I have to. A large POS eats up quite a bit of fuel. I’ve been hitting the best ice possible for racial isotopes but I still need to mine for hours a day to keep up. Most of the corp still can’t use ice harvesters and getting them together for OPs is shotty at best. Now for those of you who have ice mined, you know how boring it is. The nice thing about it is you can set your harvesters on an ice rock and go afk for awhile. Imagine ice mining, but having to stare at local for hours. Thank god for hulu so I can watch some lost in a small window box.

It’s been extremely stressful to say the least. 0.0 is supposed to be fun. I really need to sit down and come up with a plan to keep up with the ice without killing myself. Will I be able to pull in the type of cash I used to? Probably not, but I NEED to be able to pull in some money so I can buy the big toys I like. If not, I’ll burn out and not log in at all. I find myself taking breaks and just playing BF2 or some other mindless game.

I guess part of the problem is the corp structure. Everyones out ratting and mining helping themselves while I”m left out having to ice mine. My executive officer is out of commision for awhile while he sorts out some RL stuff which doesn’t help. I guess I need to start cracking the whip in some areas. I think some new blood in the corp would help greatly as well.

Hopefully things will fall into place a bit better in the coming weeks. Just need to keep at it and keep delegating. Thanks for listening to the rant!


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Friday Update Links – Easy Weekend Edition

Last weekend the lady friend and I went away. This weekend we have a couple of wedding things to take care of, some house cleaning to do and then some Eve time for me. Most of the POS stuff is up so hopefully I can get my hulk out there and start making some money for myself. Imake it a point to keep my wallet full when possible. Makes it a little easier being CEO if I can afford some nice toys and plenty of PvP. Helps take the edge off the stress. Have a safe weekend all (both in and out of game!).

Podcasts: Still dead for podcasts this week. Hoping it picks up soon.

Fly Reckless Special #1 – Finally some more commentary from SB! He is always just reading dev blogs and Eve Tribune articles. Its nice to hear some of his opinions!

Blog Highlights:

Eve Mags “Mondo’s Flight Academy” Parts III, IV & V : Still loving these!

Wensley – Taking On Interceptors: He certainly has a way of writing PvP situations like no on else.

DBR: T3CH Construction: No matter what type of pilot you are, you NEED to learn up on T3 ships and production.

Dev Blogs:

CCP Fear – Your Revamped Rookie: All of us remember the utterly shitty experience we had when we first started the game. The stupid tutorials certainly wasn’t the driving factor to why we are still playing. We all quickly realized that the tutorials were flat out wrong or didn’t cover the most important stuff. And attributes, oh how I hate you. I would love to see the whole system destroyed, but thats not happening anytime soon.

CCP Mindstar – Apocrypharrrrrdwarre!: For the geek in all of us.

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Screenshot Winner

And the winner of the First ever Everyday Eve Screenshot Contest is…..



Congrats! With all the hard work Kirith does he certainly deserves this. 10 mil will be in his wallet today!

We didn’t have a ton of entries but hey, the blog is still growing. Hopefully we can do this again in a couple of weeks!


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Screenshot Contest #1 Contestants

Well we didn’t get as many submissions as I would have liked, but that just means better chances for those who did send one in! Next time there will be more for prizes up for grabs and hopefully a few more people sending shots in.

Remember, voting is open until Early Wednesday. To vote, just comment on this post with which number screenshot you are voting for. And yes, you may vote for your own.



Caption: This screenshot came during a level four mission when Angel Cartel battleships where pounding my Rokh with torpedoes while I valiantly returned fire. I won.

Sent by: Kirith Kodachi



Caption: A Tri-Formation of navy Megathrons, the very enemy of the State!

Sent by: Toni Li of Eve’s Weekend Warrior
Get voting All!


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Contest Reminder

Remember all, submissions for the screenshot contest are due tonight. Please email them to me at nickdgdm[at] 10 MILLION isk up for grabs!

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Friday Update Links – POS Launch Edition – Screenshot Contest

This weekend will be my first ever POS launch. Those of you who keep up with this blog know how big this is for my and my corp. I don’t have a heck of a lot of experience with this stuff but have done a ton of research and think I will be all set. Alliance will be providing some lock down fleets as well as bubbling of gates (I hope). All in all it should go well. I’ll post some pictures next week and maybe a frap vid or two. Hope all your weekends are action packed and safe!

Podcasts: Seems like all the other podcasts have come to a screeching halt as of late. Fly Reckless seems to be the only one on a decent schedule. It’s too bad too because I really really like both WDA and TDB. Thinking of starting my own bi-weekly podcast.

Fly Reckless #25: SB Does his thing as usual.

Dev Blogs: These take on a certain level of extreme importance as Apocrypha draws near.

Strategic Cruisers: A New Breed – by CCP Nozh: I’m loving these little tidbits they are releasing as Apocrypha approaches!

More Queue Queue – by CCP: Great news. Not the implementation everyone was hoping for, but certainly better than nothing.

Blog Highlights:

Kirith Kodachi’s Apochrypha Probing Lessons: I, II & III: A must read for any probers out there. Apocrypha will change how probing works and these are good reads to make sure you are prepared.

The EvE Online Portal/ Fresh, vibrant and just what we needed with so many Eve related blogs out there. I hope to see Alexia take this site to the next level and do highlights as well as quick snapshots of the various new posts.

EvE Mag – Mondo’s Flight Academy Part I & Part II: Really loving these. Almost reminds me a little of the start of Ender’s Game. I will be following these.

From The Forums:

BoB Threadnaught: This thing just keeps going. Things seem to be settling down on the whole BoB/Kenny thing. The Goons of course overexagerated on their claims of BoB running with their tails between their legs. In Fact it looks as if Kenny has a good portion of their original systems back. Goons took quite a hit in SOV loss this week.

Wednesday Screenshots Contest: I love taking screenshots as I fly through space, but I’m sure some of you have some great screenshots as well. I figured a little contest is in order. Send an email with ONE screenshot that you love to nickdgdm[at] with “Screenshot Contest #1” in the subject. Attach the screenshot in .jpg format as large as you have it. Send only one screenshot. If you have a bunch you love, save them for next time! Also put a little caption of it in the email as well as where I should send the ISK if you win. Also, if you happen to have a blog that you keep, please send the link to it as well so I can link to it if and when you win.

Ok, the prizes. This first time I’ll start with 10 Million ISK. Submissions are due by midnight this Sunday. A post will be up Monday showing all the submissions at which time everyone will get to vote. Voting continues from Monday to Early Wednesday at which time the winner will be announced and posted. So get out there this weekend and snap some screenshots!


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